Vedolvo Yevoldo - Custom Hearthstone Card

Vedolvo Yevoldo

24th November, 2020 (RR)

Made by Octotron 2000

DustenStein (4.1)10 months ago
...that the 3/3 saw play.
DustenStein (4.1)10 months ago
Then, I say 4 mana 2/2. Sorry, I didn't know
Randomizer (3.6)10 months ago
@DustenStein The 3/3 is indeed played in Evolve Shaman. I'd go as far as to say if this was just "cast Evolve" it would be strong.
DustenStein (4.1)10 months ago
I'd say this is fine. It's basically a random 4 mana minion which also evolves your other minions, a random 3 mana minion that revolves or a 1/1 that devolves your opponent's stuff.
If you just imagine each of the spells separately on a Legendary 3/1/1 you'd say it's weak and too specific and niche, right? Giving it this flexibility makes this playable.
HOWEVER:
Is the 3 mana 3/3 Battlecry: evolve adjacent minions played? If yes, I think this could be a 4 mana 2/2. If no, this should be fine as is.
Randomizer (3.6)10 months ago
You're right, Grumble's Battlecry was a downside, because he literally removed minions from your board. He was only situationally good, but because he was also a 6 Mana 7/7, he usually wasn't because you couldn't pair his Battlecry up with much else on the same turn.

Evolving, however, is almost always an upside since minions of a higher Cost are on average always stronger, unless you're playing some weird buff Shaman deck. 3 Mana 4/4 means you can pair this with cards like Desert Hare in the same turn, and if you don't want your board evolved you just choose Devolve instead and get a strong Devolve on a stick. They're not comparable in any way, a 3 Mana 4/4 with 1 Mana worth of upside is OP plain and simple.
Gothe (4.2)10 months ago
@sense124 I mean, yes, you're not wrong. my point is that blizzard has printed overstatted cards with upsides, unless we look at 'Return your other minions to your hand. They cost (1)' as a downside, I don't see any issue, a 3/4/4 (4/4 being the average stats of a 4 cost minion) with an upside as being overpowered since Grumble wasn't in his own right.
sense124 10 months ago
@Gothe True, it's just confusing to judge a card on base value. Since if I'm following your previous logic, that means Bogstok Clacker is a 3/3 with a downside.
Gothe (4.2)10 months ago
@sense124 and if you play shudderwock shaman and want to go infinite, Grumble Worldshaker's a 6/7/7 with an upside. I'm not trying to say that this is completely balanced or anything, just putting it out there.
sense124 10 months ago
@Gothe I mean, if you have played evolve shaman before you know that you always want to constantly evolve. So this is a 3 4/4 on average with an upside.
Gothe (4.2)10 months ago
@Randomizer I mean, shaman has had a 6/7/7 that returns your other minions to your hand and sets their cost to (1). His downside was he returned minions to your hand. Guess this guy being a 3/4/4 on average downside is he transforms your minions into random ones of a higher cost that might not be optimal for you at that moment.
sense124 10 months ago
But I guess it's kinda fine since this is a legendary.
sense124 10 months ago
Yeah, this is already a better Bogstrok Clacker and it's a lot more flexible.
Randomizer (3.6)10 months ago
Seems OP, since it evolves itself in the process making it's on average a 3 Mana 4/4 (or 3/4?) that evolves your minions, with bonus flexibility.
Gothe (4.2)10 months ago
great nonetheless
Gothe (4.2)10 months ago
Couldn't it just be 'Battlecry: Cast Evolve, Revolve, or Devolve."?
Octotron 2000 (4) (creator)10 months ago
Take 2 of this meme after applying the feedback. I'll delete the old one if this gets into the gallery as a replacement (or keep it if you guys want).