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Friendly Chat

3rd January, 2014 (Basic) ()

Made by Nikko

DustenStein (4.1)11 hours ago
Check out the YouTube channel Hearthstone Mathematics. They have a lot of statistics (including the generosity of the reward track) which might answer your question.
Gothe (4.2)12 hours ago
how much gold is a random Legendary worth? how much gold would it take to craft one?
TheArcanist (4.1)13 hours ago
@MosnarNoedig that was so perfect.
MosnarNoedig (3.9)13 hours ago
And the Rewards Track isn't actually more gold, it's less...
keyvnn9 (3.9)14 hours ago
The commissioned art for Rising Winds doesnt actually show epic looking eagles, it shows barn owls wearing masks
TheArcanist (4.1)14 hours ago
Bloodmage Thalnos is some other guy called Turov the Risen.
keyvnn9 (3.9)14 hours ago
Woop missed that Malygos was mentioned
keyvnn9 (3.9)14 hours ago
And Chillmaw is Sindragosa and Malygos is Kalecgos
Marleon (4.2)14 hours ago
And Jaraxxus wasn't originally Jaraxxus, but some other random Eredar...
Shoemanband (4.2)16 hours ago
And King Krush's art is just some random blue ravasaur, since Krush is actually green.
TheArcanist (4.1)16 hours ago
Yeah, and the art for Malygos is actually Kalecgos. But probably everyone knows this one.
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
@Ymer The same way, the picture of Shattered Sun Cleric is actually a picture of Lady Liadrin
DustenStein (4.1)1 day ago
@Ymer Cool!
Fun fact: Flavour text is really cool sometime. From the Darkmoon cards I like G'huun, C'Thun, Balloon Merchant and many I forgot about
Ymer (4)1 day ago
Fun Fact: Youthful Brewmaster's art is actually a picture of Chen Stormstout.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 day ago
On Freezing Trap: There’s a difference between a card being good and a card being oppressive. Voracious Reader drawing 3 if your hand is empty is strong. Kael’thas on 6 into 4 Twin Slice 2 Inner Demons for lethal is oppressive.
Shoemanband (4.2)1 day ago
That's pretty much what it was like while Whizbang was standard. "Oh boy, I hope I get to play that good Hunter deck, or even Shaman, just anything besides Pr-" *gets Surrender to Madness Priest*.
That said, it was amazing if you managed to win with that Priest deck.
DustenStein (4.1)1 day ago
Maybe, but maybe not. I used Whizbang when AoO came out bc that's the expansions I "skipped" to get into the cycle of saving up gold until the launch and I barely got any wins. It's really random too. Maybe you like Mage but hate Priest but "whoops, it's a Priest deck. *pat on back* you'll be good bro. Have fun in wild."
Poondaedalin (4.1)1 day ago
It's not as bad as you think. I've been trying it in Wild, and the decklists are quite good. Granted, it's not amazing against Wild Secret Mage or Odd Paladin, but I digress. There are so many vagrants playing high-ranking Standard decks on Wild ladder that it ends up balancing out.
Gothe (4.2)1 day ago
Whizbang not being in standard seems like such a weird move by blizz. you'd never want to run it in wild because it puts you at a straight disadvantage.
DustenStein (4.1)1 day ago
If you're playing aggro, you don't have enough cards in hand to be able to replace your extra-cost minion with another one but you can play around freezing and not lose too many resources. In control, you lose a lot of resources BUT you have just as many good cards in hand meaning you'll just play something else to replace the higher-cost minion.

Also Standard Whizbang is my dream and my purpose. I got him golden from a normal pack. I want my golden Standard decks in Standard, not in wild.
Shoemanband (4.2)1 day ago
If you anticipate a Freezing Trap, then you’ll want to deal with it with your 2 Mana minion rather than something more expensive. Plus, if your opponent is playing a secret on turn 2, then they’re not developing the board (unless it’s from Phase Stalker and the like).
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
The problem being, you spent those 2 mana to deal with the trap you didn't really wanted to deal with, because you wanted to manage the early game board. Sure, you manage the secret, but lose the board. In every meta I faced Hunter, Freezing Trap is one of the biggest problem cards
Shoemanband (4.2)1 day ago
Freezing Trap is not that big of a deal in early turns. If you commit your turn 2 minion into a Freezing Trap, that’s not a big tempo loss since you essentially spent 2 Mana to deal with a 2 Mana card which is an even tempo trade. In later turns, when it could threaten a 4+ Mana minion, you usually have more options to play around it at that point. The problem is more so cards like Phase Stalker that cheat out those Secrets with a body, but those cards will rotate out.
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
The problem is that in the early stages, you have very little room to play around Freezing Trap, if you're not a Tempo deck, because if you play a single minion on turn 2 (many decks don't really have a solid Turn 1 play), you're playing into Freezing trap and there isn't much you can do. Can't attack, can't go face, you have to hope to draw some spell do remove threats or you just take a bunch of damage. Even if you manage to clear the board, you still lack any tempo, as your minion which survived/you just played means nothing as it's gonna be bounced back to your hand. My main problem with Freezing Trap and Edwin is just how opressive those cards are and there's only one way to counter them, some decks might not have, which can cost you the game, or at least the early game
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 day ago
What I wouldnt mind seeing is rotating and unnerfing Warsong to the less than 3 Attack version, and maybe doing something with Charge! too
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 day ago
With Freezing Trap, you really don’t lose the game on the spot. Playing around Secrets is one of the more skilltesting parts of the game, so removing a Secret that’s really fine would make people riot about the game being dumbed down.
As for Edwin, he’s really nowhere near the most powerful thing that can be done in the early turns of the game. He’s a huge commitment, with big risk/reward, and can be often dealt with even with big stats.
As for Shadowstep, I also think this card is fine. Rotating Shadowstep would be like rotating Sorcerer’s Apprentice, where it’s not needed but would be a huge bummer for the class for the rest of time. Rogue would never recover. It’s one of the most “Roguey” cards, and it’s far from broken
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
Well, I got... Deck of Chaos from Level 25. It's gonna be fun
TheArcanist (4.1)1 day ago
Guys, I just got N'Zoth from the level 25 reward, so now I have all 4 Old Gods! Feels pretty cool. Time to make Menagerie Warrior.
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
But I think they won't change Magma Rager, because it's too big of a meme, especially having so many copycats and Blizz stated *somewhere* that Magma Rager is intentionally bad, because it's supposed to serve as a teaching element, so even the new players realize it's bad
Marleon (4.2)1 day ago
I think this revamp targets the basic set more, like Silverback Patriach, they want to make those cards more playable and such
Lucious (4.1)1 day ago
They're going to do a whole Classic/Basic revamp next year. Source: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/1723-hearthst
one-is-evaluating-the-basic-classic-sets-for-
a-revamp-much-like-priest-received-with-ashes
-of-outland
Marleon (4.2)2 days ago
And bringing back old cards to the classic set is generally a bad idea, maybe except Whizbang, because they further devaluate already the worst set in the game
Marleon (4.2)2 days ago
I would still disagree about Edwin and Freezing Trap.

The ebb/flow idea is false. Edwin is played in all metas, and it isn't for the fact that there's so many card to support him, but most people go out of their way to implent him and give him support. Especially since he's a backup win-condition. I don't think this card is healthy for the game since it's a 3 mana semi win condition, especially limiting design space for any cheap cards for Rogue.

And I don't see anything clever about Freezing Trap. The so called "important nieche" is a no brainer, you just play it and most of the time you out tempo your opponent quite a lot, if they don't have any AOE. Sure, it would change the interactions with the Secrets, but for the better, as you would actually be able to have more interaction with your opponent and playing against Hunter not being "So do I get AOE or lose now?"
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 days ago
Here's a fun one: what if they rotated Warsong Commander, but changed her text back to the pre-TGT version that grants minions Charge? Warrior desperately needs help in Wild right now, and I feel like Warsong in Wild wouldn't be overpowered. Plus, if Blizzard is worried about the effect being too strong, then the effect can be changed to an aura, rather than an on-play effect ("Your other minions with 3 or more Attack have Charge" vs. "Whenever you summon a minion with 3 or less Attack, give it Charge"). That way, Frothing Berserker will lose Charge after gaining more than 3 Attack.
TheArcanist (4.1)2 days ago
I think they should rotate Shadowstep. The card is basically just a copy of your best Battlecry in the deck and has been obnoxiously strong in basically any Rogue build.
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 days ago
As for the purely Wild cards, my personal wish list is Whizbang, Varian Wyrnn, Eadric the Pure, Troggzor, and Blingtron.
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 days ago
I'd like to see the four unlockable cards from the old days added back to Standard: Captain's Parrot, Old Murk-Eye, Gelbin Mekkatorque, and E.T.C.
Gothe (4.2)2 days ago
*bringing back
Gothe (4.2)2 days ago
also how do people feel about bringing ack cards and adding them to the classic set?
Gothe (4.2)2 days ago
i gotta agree with everything @keyvnn9 said abut both the trap and the edwin.
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 days ago
As for Freezing Trap, I think the Hunter Secrets are the best designed Classic Secrets. Freezing Trap fills a very important niche in the game with how your opponent interacts with Secrets, and removing it would change the dynamic completely.
Hunter Secrets recently have actually been amazingly balanced in terms of which you run, with the main Holy Trinity being Explosive, Freezing, and Pressure Plate. You can pretty much swap between them as much as you want to tech how you choose, and they’re all very even.
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 days ago
Chadd Nervig on Edwin:
“ Let's talk about Edwin VanCleef, and why he isn't going to the Hall of Fame (at least, not yet, anyway).

Edwin was very much on our short list of potential cards to Hall of Fame this year. (Sea Giant was the other close contender).

He definitely has been extremely powerful, for a long time. So, why not rotate him? Well, a couple reasons.

He's really good, but he's also in a class, not Neutral, and that goes a long way.
He's also right up Rogue's alley in terms of class identity.
He skews Rogue in general toward playing lots of little cards, but not toward any particular archetype overly strongly.
Much of his *current* power level is dependent upon Year of the Dragon cards. This sort of ebb/flow with expansions is good! Not disputing that he's been pretty strong all along, but Year of the Dragon in particular has had really strong synergies for him.
This is definitely a card that we'll continue to reevaluate each year, so I wouldn't be surprised if Edwin does make it to the Hall of Fame in the future. But at least for the Year of the Phoenix, we think the Standard game is better with him still there.”

I agree with him. I think that Edwin is fine right now, and should only be removed if he’s very much blocking future designs that Blizzard wants to implement.
Marleon (4.2)2 days ago
What do you think should be the card to rotate in the next Hall of Fame cycle? I have 1 obvious and 1 less obvious choice.

Obvious one: Edwin VanCleef.
Edwin is a card that can sometimes just win you games, is very opressive and he is one of the most played legendaries ever. He is the only classic class legendary to make an appearance in EVERY meta, because he is just that good.

Less obvious: Freezing Trap
Freezing Trap is by far the strongest Hunter Secret. Even if Phase Stalker will rotate alongside this Hall of Fame rotation, Hunter is still getting quite a lot of Secret archetype support, which might hint at something. Freezing Trap is an incredibly strong card. It denies your opponent's tempo as the weren't able to do much with the minion they just played, protects your own valueable minions and almost destroys a minion. Sap already is a strong card on its own, but in the early turns, Freezing Trap is much better than Sap, when you don't have any other minions to check for it, as well as the increased cost makes the card pretty much dead in your hand and playing it in most situations would be a huge waste of mana, especially when you're trying to keep up with a super fast face Hunter about to kill you.
TheArcanist (4.1)2 days ago
I've been playing some Secret Mage and Evolve Shaman in standard and these decks are so cool! I've never seen an Evolve deck so consistent since Doom in the Tomb. And @DustenStein I think a Discord group could be cool to talk, share decks and game highlights.
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 days ago
6 mana 4/4 weapon, After your hero attacks, deal 4 damage to all enemies. You also draw it at the start of the game.
In original K&C it was a 6/6 deal 6 but changed for obvious reasons
DustenStein (4.1)2 days ago
Not particularly for custom cards (cuz that already exists) but rather for this community (ofc we'd have a channel for cards too)
DustenStein (4.1)2 days ago
What does full Quel-delar do @keyvnn9? I never assembled it myself.

What do you guys think, should we just make a Discord group? This is somewhat of a poll.

Advantages are more channels, easier chatting, posting images and probably more.
DustenStein (4.1)2 days ago
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: Lothraxion for my Demons and the entire Silver Hand package.
It's a really good deck. I don't really want to "ruin" this chat with deck codes but if anyone wants to try it out, or if anyone has some great decks to share, I'd be down to post/copy some deck codes. Maybe a separate chat would be good for this but if that's the case, might as well create our own Discord.
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 days ago
I had an 11-3 Duels run with Warrior where I got Emerald Goggles, 2x LOCUSTS, and a full Quel’delar. It was an experience.
DustenStein (4.1)2 days ago
I made myself a neat N'Zoth Paladin deck, using 7 murlocs (the new 2/3 that draws dragons, the 2/1 Legendary and the 4/3 with Rush), 2 2/3 Bronze Explorers for dragons, 2× the new 3/3 Weapon for Elementals, 3 mechs (the claw 6/3 twice and the corrupt one once), 2 Amalgams and best of all THE DARKMOON RABBIT! It saved me so many games I'm not even joking. For Paladin, hard removal like that is precious and getting 2 for 1 with N'Zoth is just such a deal.
Kapiork 2 days ago
@Gothe Sounds great!
Gothe (4.2)2 days ago
So I haven't played ranked in a while. My second game was against a Dragon mage who had a 6 Mana reduction on all their dragons thanks to that one Legendary and the Duplicate Secret. They also had Frostlich Jaina.
I was playing my 'AmAzInG' deck which as both Yoggs and Amazing Reno in it. I won some how and I'm happy about it.
The game after that I played against a Rez priest with my same deck. Beat em down with the good ol' Mirror ENtity + Polymorph Potion to destroy tehri Rag.

I know this doesn't seem that important or epic, but I'm just happy i'm not constantly being squashed down and can have some fun with my own decks instead of the hyper optimized ones everyone seems to run.
Poondaedalin (4.1)3 days ago
My favorite so far has to be "An Even Larger Man" for controlling a big minion.
TheArcanist (4.1)3 days ago
@DustenStein OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED THAT
DustenStein (4.1)3 days ago
Have yall looked at the names for the Achievements? Their names are so good in a bad way. The one for spell damage minions for example is called "D-A-M-A-G-E". Took me a moment
Randomizer (4.1)5 days ago
I mean, Evolve Shaman's a legitimate thing due to Cagematch Custodian consistently drawing Boggspine. So yeah, Derailed Coaster's seeing some play
keyvnn9 (3.9)5 days ago
Lifedrinker has been used with Youthful Brewmaster too I think
TheArcanist (4.1)5 days ago
Derailed Coaster has been used with Boggspine Knuckles if I remember correctly.
Ymer (4)5 days ago
I fell Derailed Coaster has some untapped potential. Potentially a 5 mana 9/8. Seems like tempo overload if you don't have AOE
DustenStein (4.1)5 days ago
Correction: *6
6 cards with a 4 star or higher rating. Wow.
DustenStein (4.1)5 days ago
Yoo. Really great cards today. I think there are 4 with a 4 star rating.
CardMaker1 (3.9)5 days ago
I think the gun is actually quite alright, even tho it's only a 4 mana 2/2
GoreRattle 6 days ago
I opened 24 Darkmoon Faire Packs and all i got was a squid gun as my Legendary.
CardMaker1 (3.9)6 days ago
Thanks @DusteinStein!
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Darkmoon Rabbit is actually playable in Zoo Paladin. I run 1 copy and it either gives me fabulous lethals or crazy N'Zoths when I'm behind
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
congrats on your olden boys
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
I got a Golden C'Thun, that was the card I was most hyped about of the whole expansion. :D
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
No way! You got a golden old boy? Congrats @CardMaker1
CardMaker1 (3.9)1 week ago
It felt good when I saw that Golden Y'Shaarj coming up in the last Golden packs!
Sqentontheslime 1 week ago
Greybough works well with Germination, faceless manipulator and Stealth minions, Unless they have a Plague of death greybough can get hilariously hard to get rid of, Just gotta make sure there's always a Greybough burrowed.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Ramp Druid is insane again...
Sola Eclipse with Survival of the fittest is insane
Shoemanband (4.2)1 week ago
I think Greybough could work in just any minion-heavy tempo deck, not necessarily Token Druid. A 5 Mana 4/6 Taunt is decent, but just one resummon is great value. Going too token heavy might be too vulnerable to board clears, just a solid curve of minions could be enough to land a Deathrattle, maybe with a couple of Germination for extra synergy.
Randomizer (4.1)1 week ago
Greybough's purpose seems to be in a Token Druid deck, you play it when you have a bunch of minions you want to protect and you secured the board. Problem is that's very win more.

I'm thinking of building Greybough in Lucentbark Druid as a fallback. My theory is that in Lucentbark Druid, you play a lot of copy cards to generate value out of Lucentbark. Those copy cards translate to good value out of Greybough Deathrattles, not sure how it would work but that's the best I got.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
And about that. I don't think I'll like the mini-expansion thing. So far my plan for getting gold has been rather simple: Expansion launches, spend it all and start saving for next one.
I really have no clue how to get a decent amount of packs from the next expansion after darkmoon faire.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Now remember guys:
A 35 card expansion will hit Hearthstone midway through Madness at Darkmoon's. Start saving gold now.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
I have no idea how to use Greybough. I've thought about making a Legendary Trees deck with all Legendary trees but it would not be very good.
Randomizer (4.1)1 week ago
With the addition of Deck of Chaos, I have finally completed my saga of building horrible Plot Twist Warlock decks. I think I've finally reached Tier 6 status with it, huzzah.

Also got Greybough and Sayge, which I just... have absolutely no clue how to use. So that's fun.
Sqentontheslime 1 week ago
Good to hear it, I'll try to achieve the same, although I'm a little short on dust.
Shoemanband (4.2)1 week ago
I opened Eye’sor in my first 10, made a Totem deck, and managed to get four Eye’sors on the board in my first game. I’m satisfied.
Sqentontheslime 1 week ago
From 68 packs I got Greybough, Tenwu and a Golden E.T.C, God of metal, Zai the Incredible from Pre-purchasing (the smaller bundle) and as my free legendary.... Eys'or. Let's hope I can get some value out of it.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
Got a 4/4 Spellbreaker
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Can you believe it? I almost pissed myself. I opened the first golden pack and immediately got the hunter gun. I was like "ooh, nice. Card isn't that great but I'll take a golden legendary." I then started speeding through the other 4 remaining packs (meaning I didn't check the rarity before revealing the card which I usually always do) and the last one had G'huun in it.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
I got pretty rad stuff. I got both Paladin Legendaries, Both Priest Legendaries in gold (one preorder and the other one from golden pack), the hunter gun in gold (from golden pack) and the canon gnome normal, got the warrior 3/5, Inara and Rogue 3/2 out of 138 packs (big preorder and then 50 packs through gold +8 from the Reward track)
I already had C'Thun from the battle pass already and I immediately crafted all 3 remaining old gods and some Paladin stuff which is necessary for pure, libram paladin.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Nice luck bro... I guess my life just wanted to fuck me up a little bit more than usual.
CardMaker1 (3.9)1 week ago
I got 10 Legendaries out of 155 packs, bought both pre-order bundles and had 2200 gold, for free legendary I got deck of lunecy and golden legendary was lothraxion, so pretty happy overall.
Ymer (4)1 week ago
Okay I just bought 12 more packs and I got deck of lunacy.
Ymer (4)1 week ago
Geez, Darkmoon really wants me to play mage. For my free legend I get Sayge and in my packs I got 4 mage cards. Out of 3 packs.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Not to mention I got Golden ETC from the preorder... Was expecting something a little better after getting Bulwark of Azzinoth in Outland and Stelina in Scholomance... My luck I guess.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Guys how were your packs? For me, it was the worst opening ever... Three Legendaries out of 90 Packs - Lothraxion (good), Nameless One (meh), and Eys'or (trash), also a Golden C'Thun from a golden pack - that's cool at least... I feel scammed tho.
Thimzter (4.2)1 week ago
Hey guys anyone want to add me for the new expansions and try out some new decks?
GoreRattle 1 week ago
Trump got clowned lol
CardMaker1 (3.9)1 week ago
If you know what I mean
CardMaker1 (3.9)1 week ago
I kinda miss the "Adventure" pop up chat thingie, you got before where you could have a picture off the character to your left and text to the right.
I looked for it but didn't see it, is is removed?
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
I dont mind that it gives some bad decks, since those are usually the fun looking decks that Id try if I had the cards for them anyways
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
Whizbang isnt a card for ranked Wild, but it’s still one of the best for friendly challenges
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
lol that sorta sucks. The moment I saw it i thought it was a really cool idea for people to play decks even if they don't already have all the cards. Then in the second moment, I realized that getting a random deck, where you wouldn't know what kind of deck ti is, or even what all the cards in it are, would be kinda bad.

Supa good idea, but bad execution. I think it'd be better if it just let players pick what class and deck they'd be playing.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
I got it in gold T^T
I want to play my 100% golden standard decks in standard and not in wild
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
eh. While Wizbang's idea was good, i never liked it in practice.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
(Very weird change of topics)
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Can we please talk about whizbang? It's the worst Wild card if you think about it. Running Whizbang means, you can't play any wild cards which makes him the worst one. It's basically not even Wild at this point. All you're doing is playing an average standard deck against broken wild ones.
I don't know how to convince Blizzard to make it a Classic card but I very much would like to!
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
I'm a wild guy myself. mainly cuz all my favorite cards are wild and I'm not made of money, every rotation I can't afford to get a whole new collection of valuable cards so Wild works a lot with getting around that issue.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
@Thimzter No. There’s enough going on in the game for me to only worry about one ranked mode :p
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
As for what I play, I like playing mostly wild because it has Tess in it. It's the only card that makes playing Thief Rogue somewhat strategic and fun. Always picking the best cards is not interesting and having Tess that replays all those cards you chose adds a layer of depth to your otherwise random Thief Rogue playstyle
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
My least played classes are DH then Priest, Paladin and Mage which are all below 100 wins. Druid is 108, Warrior and Shaman around 138. Hunter and Warlock around 300 and Rogue at 1062.
My most played class is Rogue but not because of Tempo Rogue, because of Thief/Quest Rogue. I don't like fast archetypes all that much.
Thimzter (4.2)1 week ago
@keyvnn Are you a wild player?
@TheArcanist yh the power level of Wild is a lot higher, which can be really frustrating. But it does have Yogg so at least there's that!
Thimzter (4.2)1 week ago
@Ymer I play a lot of Shaman mainly in wild. I try to create my own Wild Control Shaman decks often without any luck... But its still fun xD
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Yeah, I tried Secret Mage in Wild, I have the cards, but I got tired quickly. The Wild meta is way more about getting destroyed by toxic decks than playing fun gimmicks. Not to mention all the people who would rope against a Secret Mage.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
@TheArcanist Would you ever consider playing Wild?
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
I would be so happy if Secret Mage in standard could finally be viable. My favorite archetype ever was Secret Mage in KnC.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
My most played and favorite class is Mage, I just love its flavor so much. I also enjoy Demon Hunter and Paladin. For classes I don't like, I rather dislike Hunter and I really hate Priest.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
used to also be Dr Boom Mad Genius Warrior but stopped playing that when mechs were squashed into the ground
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
my most played is Deathstalker Hunter and Amazing Reno & Yogg Mage.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
Okay, but what's your most played class then?

Mine is Priest, silly Highlander Priest for life
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
I think Rogue, I'm just not very fond of its archetypes. I don't really have that many as Warlock either, but Rogue is the class I actively don't like playing as.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
DH and Shaman myself. Rogue’s actually my most ranked wins class, and most of those wins are from Scholomance
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
Mine are Demon Hunter and Rogue. Both are fast classes and i prefer a slower playstyle. Rogues are also made to combo spell after spell in quick succession but that's not for me.
Ymer (4)1 week ago
Question: What is everyone's least played classes?
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
As for Yrel, it's a bit of a bummer for me, because Im hoping we see an Argus expansion, but like Karazhan and Scholomance, the uncorrupted version, with Kil'jaeden and Archimonde as good guys and you know... That's one of the ideas I would love to see in an expansion
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Also can we please stop writing long monologues about Hearthstones problems and not-problems? I find things like that hard to read, despite how well-written they are (it's not because I can't read, I promise).
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Lothraxion is also kind of weird. Everyone except for Paladin got Darkmoon Legendaries but they got the lore treatment (which is still nice for the ones who know).
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
@TheArcanist You think? Her voiceline and music are pretty good too

@Thimzter Well yeah. Ben was in touch in the community. Even if he wasn't the best one to adress problems the community brought up to him. And Ill waiting for the patches to the progression as Im sure we'll see at least some. And I personally like the Tavern Pass, the new portraits are pretty nice and bonus XP is always nice I guess
Thimzter (4.2)1 week ago
@Marloen You make a great point, you are right that Ben Brode may not have been the greatest director but he was very in touch with the community. The new team without Brode was making some great changes with the new Quests and no duplicate system in packs and was a very rewarding change for a casual player who was played a long time. However, the Battle Pass system has undone all that positive change, and its pretty clear to me that higher ups wanted it to be implemented as its a way to make more money. I believe the HS Team may have tried to make it F2P friendly but beyond the initial stages of the pass its not very rewarding as a lot of the EXP Quests and Boosts don't apply anymore. This is the thing I found so frustrating. I am definitely not a player that grinds hearthstone to get all my quests, but the Tavern Pass seems like a greedy attempt to squeeze a little more money out of players.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Yeah, a little bit. Also, it's so annoying that she looks so badass in the artwork yet the entrance voiceline/music is some My Little Pony-level cartoon garbage.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
Anyone else find Yrel's inclusion in the Darkmoon Fair a lil outta place?
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
As for portaits, I think they want to make a major difference between the ALTERNATIVE HERO and A HERO SKIN. I don't mind it to be honest, more conent is more content. Most of the portraits aren't actually bad and they are free, so they're not as polished as the paid ones, but the three upgradeable ones are actually decent.

I don't want to say however you can't play competetively, but I wanted to adress the fact that it was never the main focus of the game. Everybody has their own playstyle, but being overly competetive, even toxic in such a game is just wrong In my opinion.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
As an upper-casual f2p player, I dont mind not having skins. I mean, Id prefer having fewer good skins in the game than lots of lesser ones, but it doesnt really affect me and if it’s going to draw people in to the game I dont mind. As for tying achievements to specific Legendaries, all it means is that Im not going to be a completionist, but I already wasnt, so again, doesnt affect me too much
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
@Marleon Addressing your point that Hearthstone should not be played competitively
("If you're trying to be the biggest tryhard you can be, in a game when Yogg-Saron, Hope's End is a card, I think you might be doing something wrong.") I disagree because everyone gets their fun in different ways whether that is being #1 or playing random cards. I, personally, like playing random cards more than winning, supported by the fact that Rogue is the only hero I have 1000 wins with which I mostly acquired through Thief Rouge, while all others are between 50 and 400 but I do understand that being Legend and winning games has something satisfying.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
Not to say I didn't like Ben Brode. He was a very fun person, however im not sure if he deserves all his enormous praise he received.

And well, I admit the system is flawed, but it isn't unsalvageable, so I'll just wait for things to get better, because after the major outcry, things will certainly change. As for the packs, yes, some of them are the stinkers, but there actually are packs from the Darkmoon Faire there too. The bigger problem than the actual packs themselves is their distribution, like putting Year of the Dragon packs at level 48, around a week before the rotation for most players. So I believe changing those to regular Darkmoon Faire packs, or if Blizz feels ballsy, golden ones.

BUT I HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT. THEY AT LEAST AREN'T STINKING CLASSIC PACKS.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Another thing I don't like is that hero portraits are heading towards quantity over quality. The 50lvl portraits as well as alt Jaina/Thrall skins are not only boring and low-effort, they also have no unique voicelines, no hero trays, no card backs, no special entrances or interactions. I'd much rather get one well-polished, full-packed alternate Jaina skin than three crappy ones.

And while the system change doesn't bother me that much since I pay for the game anyway, it feels like a kick in the face of FtP and casual players. And I really don't want the playerbase to decrease - if a game is dying, there is less reason to make it better.

I'd also say that the achievements are cool... I mean, they are, but there is another problem. They are either boring - just 'do stuff you'd normally do in a game, like play Lifesteal cards' or even worse - the achievements from Darkmoon Faire are often tied to specific Legendary or Epic cards, which again is very bad for FtP players. I'd really like more achievements that are actual challenges - the ones like 'Win without summoning more than one minion' are the perfect example.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
Ok, I guess people have different points of view on this change. I have a few things to say as well.

First of all, I do spend a lot of money on the game, basically preordering the bigger bundle of each expansion and buying some smaller bundles in between. I also play quite a bit - like 250-300 hours per expansion, and that's right now, during quarantine, when I have more time for stuff and don't play during breaks etc. Normally I would actually play more since I would play everyday for like ~1-1,5h and not long, 6-8h sessions every few days.

That being said, I've been able to collect ~90% of cards from each expansion; the duplicate protection was an absolute blessing when it comes to epics. And now I'm concerned. I really don't like when something gets worse and I can't do anything about it. And the new system has major flaws - the biggest one imo being rewarding bigger things every now and then and not smaller things, but more often. Also, giving packs and Arena tickets is ALWAYS worse than giving gold - a pack from a certain expansion can't be exchanged for a pack from a different one, while 100 gold can, same for arena tickets. A Scholomance pack is basically worthless for me since I have nearly all the cards from the expansion and I'd MUCH rather just have 100 gold. Not to mention Year of the Dragon packs which will rotate in a few months.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
@Marleon I agree with pretty much all of your points, but Brode’s talk on Purify is one of my favorite developer insights that there’s been and I agree with what he says there. Balance changes taking too long was a part of Blizzard’s fear that changing things too fast would hurt the community (but that idea’s been changed now).
Anyways, that’s mostly unrelated. I think you summarized Hearthstone design well
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
The other thing I thing I see the community has a huge problem with is that the game is too random and now rewards players XP even for losing. I think this mentality misses the entire point of Hearhstone, which was never meant to be a heavy focused competetive game. Sure, you can play ranked, but the randomness and silliness is just a part of the game. Many players get too competetive playing only the most most meta efficent decks, feeling better than other, more casual players. But looking at the game as it is now, it has even more non competetive modes than competetive ones: Casual Play, Adventure (there a lot of those), Tavern Brawl, Battlegrounds and Casual Duels compared to Ranked, Heroic Duels and Arena. Hearthstone is a game when its main focus is to have fun and I think it was always obvious to most players. If you're trying to be the biggest tryhard you can be, in a game when Yogg-Saron, Hope's End is a card, I think you might be doing something wrong.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
Many people keep telling themselves that the game is dying, boring and everything, just because Ben Brode left. The truth is that the game has gotten MUCH better since Brode left. We all sure loved Brode for his attitude and nature, but as a Director, he wasn't doing too great. Many problems were left unadressed, with balance changes taking months, many cards were purely designed to be inbalanced (there's an entire video explaning why Purify is terrible and why it is fine it is terrible by Ben himself after all). Note that Brode was still mostly responsible for the development of most of the expansions during Year of the Raven and that was certainly the worst time for Hearthstone (the addition of Baku the Mooneater and Genn Greymane, entire Rastakhan, etc.) Year of the Mammoth had its own share of problems with many decks being very opressive and having huuge winrates, like Raza Priest or Cubelock. But with Ben Lee in charge, Year of the Dragon and Year of the Phoenix have brought us many amazing new additions to the game: Dalaran Heist/Tombs of Terror, Book of Heroes to give players more context on the charatcers, The Demon Hunter class (which yes, was and kinda still is a bit unbalanced, but the new class had to be a bit stronger than the other ones to draw in old players, if the new class was going to be worse than most, why would anyone bother?) and this progression revamp. The meta is way more balanced and the changes take a lot less time.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
I think Hearthstone atm has a similar problem to League of Legends, when a major part of the community is just very toxic and despite telling everybody everywhere on every occasion how much they HATE the actual game they keep playing it anyway. Every new patch with new stuff, which is often fun and is certainly better than getting nothing at all (shoutout to all our Valve games enjoyers), is often viewed as bad and greedy and such.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
@Thimzter Oh don't get me started on Ben Brode again... Ehhh. He's not worthy of his overpraised legacy
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
About the new system, as a casual player, who wasn't getting 30 wins a day, so far I feel, Im getting more gold with this progression than with the old one.

And I'm mostly a F2P player, I mean, I bought this new Tavern Pass, but I haven't bought a single pre-order. Just gathering gold, Ive managed to get most cards I wanted. Of course, I don't have most legendaries each expansion. But do I need them? No. I have enough cards to play many diverse decks, even without the legendaries. I play casual anyway.

So indeed, the new system is flawed, it should reward more XP for just playing the game, but the main problem I have at the moment is with people's logic that everybody grinds 30 wins per day, you need 100% of cards each expansion to even play the game and only counting pure gold as rewards in the system. I mean, Ive seen enough threads not considering packs and arena tickets to have any value saying "you get those too, but gold is more important". Well, not really. Packs are also worth 100 gold each, and an arena ticket is 150 gold. That's basic knowledge, so Im not sure why people don't take them into account.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
Does the video assume you grind 100 gold every day in the old system?
Thimzter (4.2)1 week ago
@TheArcanist I saw that video too, although I'm not a player that saved a lot of gold before but its crazy how much it affects other players. I've been playing since beta and its truly sad the direction they're going with Hearthstone. After the departure of Ben Brode and now David, Hearthstone has truly lost its spirit.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyqWTqlAuyQ&t
=81s

Just wanted to share the latest video from Zeddy about the new reward system. Some of you have probably seen it already, and some might not be interested, but I think it shows the sad truth about what they did to this game. This should definitely get more recognition.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Let me predict it here: Horrendous Growth is going to be a good card. It cannot be silenced therefor it's a good big body. Ofc it can only be used by slower and bigger decks but it's a good card.
Kapiork 1 week ago
So wait, you can eventually get all Level 50 heroes? Great!
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
The Level 50 ones are a mixed bag. I'll probably go for Priest this expansion, because I like Anduin as a character and this portraitis pretty good.

Next expansion Im aiming for Illidan, because the stock one is just bad and I don't Aranna, so... Yeah. Not to say this portrait is bad, it's pretty nice.

The other ones are bit hard for me to judge, but Ill try to do it anyway.

Gul'dan is pretty good, very nice demonic vibe.
Uther looks a little plain, not very interesting.
So does Jaina, pretty much every other Jaina portrai is much better, except the stock one.
Thrall looks a bit twisted with his body and the colors look flat with minimal shading.
Valeera is actually pretty decent, I like her here.
Garrosh is fine, but a bit generic. Nothing really makes him stand out.
Malfurion and Rexxar are pretty alright, right in the middle. Not great, not bad. But looking at both their stock, 1000 wins and Rexxar's Book portrait, those level 50 ones are probably their best portraits anyway.
Ymer (4)1 week ago
@TheArcanist Yes.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
What skin from the 10 skins you can choose from when you get to lvl 50 would you like the most? I think I'm gonna choose Druid or Priest, I think the others look kinda bad. Wish they were already shown with animations.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
depends where you live in the world. for me, it's any time after i wake up to before evening when people are going to sleep. posting them when they're awake allows for more people to view and comment on your cards
Kapiork 1 week ago
What's the best time to post cards?
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
I really wish they made an option to select a random hero just like with the random card back.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
I actually like the Nagrand Garrosh portrait as well. Not gonna replace my Deathwing, but as I decided to buy all the portraits from Book of Heroes, I should enjoy some games with this bad boy as well.
Shoemanband (4.2)1 week ago
Yeah, tbh I like the wistful protagonist look of the new portrait more than the brutal warlord we have now. Not enough to buy it, though.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
imma be in the minority with this one, but i really like Nagran Garrosh simply because it looks so different than the typical Garrosh we know.
However, i'd much rather they do a dungeon run style single player instead of the Book of Heroes.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
I like Yogg, but not THAT much...
Anyway, other thoughts on Nagrand Garrosh?
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
*when he fills the board with random stuff, your stuff will have rush but it only matters if you got good stuff
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
I feel like Sayge could have some potential. Yogg is the best card in the game rn no questions asked. It's a 10 mana 7/5 that either destroys all minions and gets real big, fills the board with random stuff (I think the worst of all results), becomes old yogg, fills ypur hand with random spells that cost 0 (wtf this is so scary I love it), or destroys a random hero (which is the funniest of all the options)
Ymer (4)1 week ago
Garrosh Ogre is a !*$!@)$% mana (*^&$*@* / %#%($@ and no text. Bad stats for the cost.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
i just got Sayge. Feels bad man
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
@Marleon how can you talk about Yogg like that!?!?!?
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
But the problem is he is very bad for the cost...
Poondaedalin (4.1)1 week ago
@Marleon I hadn't seen the Garrosh Warrior skin before I saw your post, and... Yikes. He looks like a Boulderfist Ogre.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
Im really diggin the new upgradeable ones with the pass. Jaina-3 would be perfer if she was a bit more centered on her head instead of a full body and I really like Thrall-1. Much more than Thrall-2 and Thrall-3, so Im gonna use the first one I think as I don't really have any other Shaman portraits. even if I had tho, I still like Thrall-1 quite a lot.

Aaaaaaand the new warrior looks sick. I'm gonna be sad putting Magni aside, but Annhylde looks great.

The level 50 pass ones are pretty good too, Im really looking forward to getting Anduin and maybe Illidan next expansion. Gul'dan is pretty good too, if you like Warlock.
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
By the way. What do you think about the Nagrand Garrosh skind secretly revealed yesterday? You can check it in your collection of Heroes in the collection menager, it's at the very end.

Soo. Next to Morgl, who at least has unique voice lines and is his own character, Nagrand Garrosh is in my opinion the absolute worst alternate Hero skin. It's just soooo ugly. Some of the stock ones are pretty bad too, but they are stock ones, so they aren't supposed to be very special, but as far as alternate ones go, Nagrand Garrosh is absolutely terrible imo
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
I got the new Yogg I actually really hoped for C'Thun or Lothraxion, but Ill will take Yogg
Ymer (4)1 week ago
I got Sayge. Mage is my second least played class. DH is my least played, so I'm glad it wasn't Zai or Il'gynoth.
keyvnn9 (3.9)1 week ago
Just got Yrel too. I dont plan on crafting Paladin though
Shoemanband (4.2)1 week ago
Yrel. Not bad, but that means I’ll have to craft a bunch of Paladin epics.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
Oh and don't expect me to not brag about the legendaries I get, just saying. I'd like to hear what you get too but we still have some time, I guess.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
I promised myself that jf I don't get every Old God day 1 I'm crafting all of them right there and then. Thank god I got C Thun off the list. I really want both Paladin, Mage, Rogue or Warlock (even Deck of Chaos) Legendaries. They could be a ton of fun with the right old God.
Randomizer (4.1)1 week ago
I got Blastheimer :( Was hyped because I like Deathrattle Hunter, then I realized that Blastheimer's base stats are so bad that you can't build a good deck around her. At least she'll help me craft N'Zoth.
TheArcanist (4.1)1 week ago
I got an Old God... but the wrong one, it was G'huun. Kinda sucks cause I like never play Priest and I really hate the class.
Poondaedalin (4.1)1 week ago
I got Blastenheimer. Time to finally build a Mech Hunter deck!
MosnarNoedig (3.9)1 week ago
I got frickin' metal ETC. I may quit Hearthstone soon.
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
(I got C'Thun)
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
What's the Legendary you guys got from the first reward? Any old godzz?
Poondaedalin (4.1)1 week ago
I would assume that the Battle Pass pays for itself if you're the type of person that buys packs with money. Granted, it's useless for the rest of us, but catering to the whales is what makes Blizzard the most money, so that's probably what they'll go for.
Gothe (4.2)1 week ago
I think it should be called a battle pass by the devs
DustenStein (4.1)1 week ago
What do you guys think of the battle pass (also called reward track by the devs to avoid using that term)?
Marleon (4.2)1 week ago
JoJo made it to HS, it's time to burn my computer
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Hearthstone is a big jojoke confirmed!
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Guys, GUYS! FLAVOUR TEXT FOR SHADOW CLONE!!! "You thought you were attacking face, but it was me! You!"
KONO DIO DA
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
ogre is funny
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Can we also please talk about the ogre they revealed. Too funny. Optimistic Ogre 6/7 (real nice) 50% chance to hit the *correct* enemy
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Priest sure is getting a lot of discount cards which is scary. But I don't think Idol of Y'Shaarj is a problem. Feels a bit too slow and random. You can't play it early to cheat out big minions from your deck like the 6 mana spell (that summons a 5/5 copy) does, nor can you play it late in a big deck because at that point you'd just play the normal card because it's less random. Using this in any non-big deck would be too slow. I really don't see any strong uses for this
GoreRattle 2 weeks ago
Idol of Y'Shaarj seems too broken to be a Priest card.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
You can find great art for your cards there and do some other stuff idk
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
As I have noticed not too many people know, here's the link to the custom Hearthstone card subreddit discord:
https://discord.gg/92PK5Brx
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
disappointing, i know.
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
lol that's funny, but that's not me.
Ymer (4)2 weeks ago
Hold on, I was just playing Hearthstone and I literally ran into someone with the username Gothe. I went "that's impossible!" I mean, you can't be playing Hearthstone right now, and then we just so happen to be in a game, right? Is it a different Gothe? Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
I don't think Oh My Yogg! is gonna be ran a lot. Mainly due to it's randomness factor. Some paladin decks would want to reduce that randomness. That or i'm entirely wrong.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Can't wait to get Cataclysm from a Fireball in wild. Might turn out to be a very fun card though especially when it backfires
Shoemanband (4.2)2 weeks ago
ngl Oh My Yogg! kind of scares me. Beyond the scenarios where it's just a cheaper Counterspell, the fact that it has a chance of absolutely blowing up the game for you or your opponent makes playing against any Paladin Secret terrifying. Even if you just cast a throw away 1-cost spell, it could still become a Plague of Flames.
Marleon (4.2)2 weeks ago
It were some dark times. Posting series of cards longer than 3 was always a game of life and death as it meant reposting everything once again
Ymer (4)2 weeks ago
@Gothe I didn't have my account set up at the time, but it suuuuucked.
MosnarNoedig (3.9)2 weeks ago
yeppp
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
does anyone else remember a time when we couldn't add, change, or remove tokens on cards?
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 weeks ago
I still have my Elemental Shaman deck from Un’Goro
Currently I have 2 main decks, being Weapon Rogue and Bomb Warrior. The one I prefer from them is Bomb Warrior (which I crafted multiple Legendaries for back in AoO). I understand why it can feel annoying to play against, but I just like the resource management, and it feels like a good ol’ Control Warrior (one of my favorite archetypes)
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 weeks ago
Kind of an unpopular opinion, but Elemental Shaman! I started playing way back in K&C, back when the whole package was still in Standard, and the deck has always had a special place in my heart.
Marleon (4.2)2 weeks ago
Favorite archetype? Highlander Priest, it has to be. I always loved Priest and with Reno, Kazzakus, Raza, Zephyrys and Alexx it was always a lot of fun. And there's just a lot of silly and fun cards in Priest to play around with. I never played wild, so I never used Reno, Kazzakus and Zephyrys at the same time, but the deck is just cool
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
and don't go and tell me that Deathstalker rexxar isn't an archetype, but is actually a card that fits into archetypes, cuz zombeasts is definitely an archetype.
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
One word. Zombeasts
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
I'm extremely into Big Wild Quest Warlock (using Voidlords and other big demons aswell as Betrug and Dorian) and Wild Thief Fiesta Quest Rogue (Yogg, Tess and other thief Rogue cards excluding Hanar) (I got my 1000 wins in Rogue using mostly this deck)
Thimzter (4.2)2 weeks ago
@TheArcanist, mines probably gotta be Deathrattle Control Shaman, very niche deck in Wild but I love to play it. Any Shaman Control cards always make me very happy!
Infospam 2 weeks ago
I really like spell hunter type stuff. But I am also a fan of secret hunter so I am glad that were getting more cards for that.
TheArcanist (4.1)2 weeks ago
Hi guys, I always wanted to know: what are your favorite (ingame) deck archetypes? My personal favorite is Tempo Mage and Secret Mage and I'm pretty hyped for the new Secret synergy cards. What do you like?
Infospam 2 weeks ago
here are the other three

Infospam 2 weeks ago
Seeing as how I can get cards into the gallery I am gonna post these here and ask for your thoughts

Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
i'm still holding out hope that rogues will get all the tools they'll need. I feel like that panda legendary that bounces minions back will be used a lot for value.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
I feel like Rogue isn't getting any particularly strong cards and archetypes. Shuffle rogue will be a thing but when was that ever a good archetype
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
love it. Love Yogg.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
What do you guys think of the new expansion so far?
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Depends on the archetype but I'd agree with @Steve
Stevethebarbarian (3.9)2 weeks ago
99.9% of the time you'd rather discover a copy. Shadow Visions is a 2 mana spell with no body, and the new 1/1 that discovers the card to draw is 1 mana with a body, but Shadow Visions is enormously better.
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
So im curious. Which a more powerful effect on a card; "Discovering a card form your deck to draw" or "Discover a copy of a card in your deck." Whether be a spell, a minion, a weapon or whatever. Do you think there's an "objective" and universally better of the two, or does it depend on the circumstances and the cards?
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 weeks ago
I only promote when Im particularly satisfied with a card, which doesnt happen lots times per day
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Is it intended that the promote option is used rarely or how does it happen that only every few days one card gets promoted?
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 weeks ago
Uhh didnt put link https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reap
er-podcast-episode-21/
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 weeks ago
Friendly suggestion to check out this interview of Alec Dawson. They talk about a bunch of hot topics here like card design, class identity, and balance. Would reccomend.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
The balloon merchant's flavour text is really neat.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
I can already tell that the memes for this expansion will be great
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 weeks ago
Battlecry: If your deck has no Neutral cards, test your opponent's mettle.
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
I like the new 8 mana 7/5 Paladin Legendary High Exarch Yrel with
Battlecry: If your deck has no neutral minions gain Unity, Precision, Perfection
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 weeks ago
That new Mage secret is going to be so obnoxious to play against
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
I guess disco lock is coming to standard. Warrior is getting a Managerie package ans some rush stuff which is cool. DH is playing tokens and Lifesteal and rogue is getting combo I think
Shoemanband (4.2)2 weeks ago
Warlock is probably getting the same-old Handlock/Zoolock split, although it looks like Zoolock will be more Discard-focused. Devs have said in an interview that they'll also have synergy with Y'shaarj, so that's probably how they're going to flavor this expansion's Handlock.

It looks like Warrior is going Rush and Menagerie.

Rogue is probably getting some sort of draw/miracle archetype to synergize better with C'thun. I'm making a big predict that we'll finally see some Coin Rogue cards, but I'm probably wrong.
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
based on that first priest card that gains stats based on spells in your hand, i'm guessing a heavier emphasis on spells.
Poondaedalin (4.1)2 weeks ago
Looking at the stuff so far, I predict:
Hunter: A Secret package and a Deathrattle Mech package
Mage: Secrets?
Demon Hunter: Me go face
Druid: Spell-based to work well with Yogg
Paladin: Menagerie-based to work well with N'Zoth
Priest: Control Priest?
DustenStein (4.1)2 weeks ago
Good point. About that too, before we have seen all archetypes they're trying to push, what do you think we'll see (assuming 2 archetypes per class)
Gothe (4.2)2 weeks ago
people, people, just remember, even though it looks like it could be strong, Ace Hunter Kreen was also thought to be pretty strong when it was revealed. However its not really used. Not because it's not strong, but because it's weak for the meta and the decks of current.
keyvnn9 (3.9)2 weeks ago
Should be noted that the Legendary doubles your Attack with Aldrachi Warblades. If it was added to the game on its own, it would be good already.
Marleon (4.2)3 weeks ago
I think that this new Lifesteal DH shouldn't be that big of an issue. Unless DH gets some really op Lifesteal cards, but for what it is atm, even if DH has some Lifesteal, most of it isn't very good
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
@Everyone, Where do you find/rate new custom cards? I don't know about you but I see almost all of the cards I do under "recent comments" so that I can react to conversations and answer the people when they ask for thoughts. So if you make a card be sure to comment something.
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
;)
Matar 3 weeks ago
@DustenStein Thank you
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
@Matar нажми кнопку с надписью "Put into gallery". Там появляется галочка. Если хочешь дополнительные карты присоединить к карте, нажми зеленый текст. Если не хочешь, желтый.
CardMaker1 (3.9)3 weeks ago
I really like the new Il'gynoth card and wow that mechanic is something else Should be really fun the card in 2 weeks.
Matar 3 weeks ago
No :(
Randomizer (4.1)3 weeks ago
Huge fan of actually turning Lifesteal into an archetype, it's always felt like a keyword that was just there in the background and now they're making something out of it.
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
Mage is also getting some secrets which is great
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
Guys what do you think of the new DH package? Token + Lifesteal
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
Говоришь по-английски?
Matar 3 weeks ago
Ку всем. Вы не знаете как выложить свою карту в галерею?
MosnarNoedig (3.9)3 weeks ago
If 'tis your will to trade battletags, @Marleon, who am I to disagree? Though not in this... public place. I'm under the same name on the 366 Days of Hearthstone discord, if you wish to find me there.
MosnarNoedig (3.9)3 weeks ago
The deck was fun. It was not ...good, per se, but it was fun. I never checked the stats, but it wasn't much over 50%, if at all.
Poondaedalin (4.1)3 weeks ago
I've tried the deck a couple times, and every single time, Oblivitron dodges its Deathrattle trigger. I can only imagine how insane it will get with Baron Rivendare and Darkmoon Tonk.
Marleon (4.2)3 weeks ago
We should trade battletags, shouldn't we?
MosnarNoedig (3.9)3 weeks ago
It brings tears to my eyes. I played Mech Hunter during Rise of Shadows, and it was the most fun I've had in Hearthstone.
MosnarNoedig (3.9)3 weeks ago
Oh, I loved that deck. The highroll was when you hit Oblivitron with Nine Lives, with a Necromechanic on board, and a Whelp and Safeguard in hand.
Marleon (4.2)3 weeks ago
Hello hello, everybody
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
true! Guess I missed that decks heyday.
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
If you got Oblivitron with Nine Lives + Mechanical Whelp in your hand you got a 3/4, a 2/2 and a 7/7 on board (if you got lucky). I remember it being a decent card
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
@Gothe it had Mechanical Whelp
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
Yeah. What's also interesting is that there are quite a few high Cost cards this expansion meaning Blizz is moving away from the aggro meta. They already revealed 6 legendaries of which one costs 4, one 6 and 4 10 mana, each supporting a good archetype.
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
@DustenStein I mean, I don't think Oblivitron ever had good support, even when Boomsday was around.
Poondaedalin (4.1)3 weeks ago
Not just Oblivitron. Look at some of the lowest winrate cards in Standard right now. Beyond the memes and the Basic cards, some of the lowest are from the Mech Hunter package, since they have almost no Standard support right now.
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
And about the two new cards: THANK GOD! Ever since Boomsday rotated out, Oblivitron has been one of the least useful cards in my collection
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
I'm guessing Deathrattle Hunter
Poondaedalin (4.1)3 weeks ago
I'm hoping that Druid gets spell-based synergy to work with the new Yogg-Saron. Double Yogg Druid would be a lot of fun, especially since you can use Polkelt + Guess the Weight to immediately draw both Yoggs.
Shoemanband (4.2)3 weeks ago
I hope we see some sort of menagerie archetype with N’zoth. I’m betting Hunter gets some tools for that, although I could see it being more neutral-focused.
Thimzter (4.2)3 weeks ago
I think for Shaman its probably going to be murlocs, I hope personally for Totems but that is a bit niche
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
Just curious what archetypes people think/theorize could be pushed in the Darkmoon Fair We've already seen i think 4 of the druid cards.
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
ya know what? @Nikko your proposed emblem works wonders anyways. Doesn't necessarily look like a monk tower. Could be a watch tower! Thanks!
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
oooo {{EMBLEM=custom53}} has crossing words. that's a good one.
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
Thanks @Nikko but that's not really what i'm looking for (although i'm sure I can use it). Is there a list of the custom emblems that I can see instead of typing them all in to see what they are? I know the card maker shows a few of them.
Nikko (creator)3 weeks ago
Here it is. {{EMBLEM=custom56a}}
But I guess it won't really fit non-monk related stuff.

Nikko (creator)3 weeks ago
There is a monk temple emblem somewhere, they are supposed to be kinda neutral?
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
hey everyone, so i'm starting work on a new expansion, and i'm trying to find an emblem that's pretty neutral to both factions. Something like a flag.
keyvnn9 (3.9)3 weeks ago
And the bird pops out
Gothe (4.2)3 weeks ago
cool. Made on the third of January, 2014. I also like the custom emblem in the back
Kapiork 3 weeks ago
Surprised it took so long to make this, but better late that never, I suppose.
Poondaedalin (4.1)3 weeks ago
Hello!
DustenStein (4.1)3 weeks ago
Thanks @Nikko :)
sunbird1002 (4.1)3 weeks ago
Hi. Wow this should be a thing
Thimzter (4.2)3 weeks ago
Hello! This is cool
GoreRattle 3 weeks ago
Hello!